Wednesday, November 6, 2013

Where are they now? Updates on the Perpetrators

Gertrude Nadine Baniszewski:
(September 19, 1929 – June 16, 1990) was convicted of 1st degree murder and sentenced to life in prison on May 19, 1966.  She appealed her case and was granted a new trial in 1971, because The Indiana Supreme court declared that there was "prejudicial atmosphere" surrounding the case. On Aug. 5, 1971 Gertrude was convicted of first degree murder again. It is said that during Gertrude’s time in prison she was a “model prisoner” and a “den mother” to the other prisoners, and came up for parole in 1985.  The following article is about Gertrude's prison life before her 1971 trial.  It is sad that after what she did to Sylvia, her life was better in prison that it was before hand.http://forsylvialikensx.yuku.com/topic/140/master/1/?page=1.  Her 1971 trial information is detailed on the timeline of this page.    Many people were against her parole; in fact, there was a petition with 40,000 signatures.  A judge even tried to vacate the parole board's decision to no avail, because the parole board upheld the decision. People were outraged that Gertrude did not even take responsibility for the crime, she is quoted as saying, "I'm not sure what role I had in it ... because I was on drugs. I never really knew her ... I take full responsibility for whatever happened to Sylvia I wish i could undo it but, I can't and i'm sorry I'm just asking for mercy and nothing else.”  The publicity of Gertrude’s parole has been credited, by some, with Indiana changing its parole policy to include more input from the public.  Gertrude changed her name to Nadine van Fossan and moved to Iowa with her daughter Paula.  Details about this time are largely unknown.  Gertrude died five years later of lung cancer, without ever publically taking responsibility or apologizing for this crime.

Paula Pace/ Baniszewski:
Paula was convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison as well as Gertrude.  Paula also gave birth to a baby girl she name Gertrude during the trial. The location and identity of this child is relatively unknown, but a fairly reliable source claims that the child was treated well and became a doctor.   Paula was also granted a new trial where she plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter.  In the grand tradition of stupidity with the Indiana parole board, and despite the fact that she tried to escape twice, Paula was paroled after serving only two years in 1972.  Paula moved to Iowa where her mother eventually joined her.  Thankfully Paula’s story has a little karmic justice.  In  October of 2012 Paula was exposed, because of her facebook account.  An anonymous tipster reported her to the school board, because she was working as a teachers aid.  Paula was suspended then fired. To this date Paula has never accepted responsibility for this crime publicly or to Sylvia’s surviving family members.

Stephanie Serikstad/ Blake/ Baniszewski:   
Stephanie was not indicted  by the Grand Jury, because she testified against her family. She was initially arrested due to injury of person, but the charges were later dropped.  It is widely speculated, but not confirmed that Stephanie made a deal with Leroy New to avoid being prosecuted. There are several documented instances where she participated in the torture as much as the other children, but she was able to dodge punishment unlike her other teenage siblings.  Gertrude even claimed while she was in prison, that Coy Hubbard, Stephanie’s boyfriend took the blame for stuff Stephanie had done because he loved her.  I have a copy of this document on my forum, but I don't take it too seriously because it Gertrude saying it, but the document, although hard to read, is interesting.  http://forsylvialikensx.yuku.com/topic/141/Gertrude-talks-bad-about-Stephanie-in-parole-document?page=-1   After the trial, Stephanie went to live with her father.  Her first words after the crime to her father were, “I don’t want anyone to think I had anything to do with this”.  Apparently she still does not want them to think that. Stephanie is the member of the Baniszewski clan that has made the most statements about the crime.  She has even posted on some forums claiming her innocence.  Most of her claims have later been found to be lies. The following is a link to evidence against Stephanie's innocence.  Was Stephanie Guilty?   Stephanie became a teacher and is living in Florida. To this day Stephanie has never made public acknowledgement of her involvement in the crime.

John Blake/ Baniszewski:

John, to this day was the only one who ever admitted responsibility for this crime.  He was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 21 years in prison, but he ended up only serving two years.  He was released to his father’s custody and finished school.  It seems that he did actually suffer guilt from this crime, because he turned his life around.  He also volunteered information for a newspaper article talking about troubled youth.   John became a church deacon and was very active in his church.  John died on May 19, 2005 at age 52 of complications from diabetes.  It is not known if he had a relationship with his mother or siblings as an adult.  You can read an article about him on my forum.http://forsylvialikensx.yuku.com/topic/34/John-BaniszewskiBlake-interview 

Coy Hubbard:
Coy was convicted of manslaughter and served two years of his 21 year sentence for manslaughter.  Coy remained a criminal and had legal trouble throughout his life.  He was also charged with another murder, but he was acquitted.  You can read the article on this link: http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/angela_curry1/CoyHubbardarrestedphoto_zps31dc7f19.jpg  
Coy, by all accounts, had an extremely difficult life.  It is wondered why he did not change his name and move away. Coy was another one that was exposed as an adult, as he was fired from his job when the movie An American Crime came out.  It is widely reported by different sources that Coy suffered humiliation and ridicule for his role in the crime.  The following is a quote from his daughter: What gave you right to plaster my fathers name {Coy Hubbard} over the internet? I guess people like you don't really care who's lives you are destroying, after all Sylvia Likens was 40+ years ago. I wasn't even born yet and you've destroyed mine. Thank You, Sincerely, Dealing with it.  In our opinion, being that this girl is making light of Sylvia’s crime, it is unlikely that Coy Hubbard ever acknowledged his role in this crime.

Ricky Hobbs:

Along with Coy and John, Ricky was convicted of manslaughter and served about two years in prison.  Ricky Hobbs has a tendency to draw sympathy from people because he was losing his mother at the time of Sylvia’s death, but there is a radio interview  that will cure anyone of this available on my forum.  http://forsylvialikensx.yuku.com/reply/96/Ricky-Hobbs-radio-interview-Super-Creepy#reply-96 Also when Richard Hobbs was asked if he felt bad about what he did to Sylvia, he said what does it matter.  He actually got a tremendous amount of sympathy from John Dean Author of the book House of Evil.  I will have a link to that article under the John Dean section of this page.  Ricky hobbs died January 2, 1972 of lung cancer at age 21.

Marie Blake/ Baniszewski:
Marie was 11 at the time of the crime and no charges were brought against her.  Marie has been quoted as saying that her and Shirley were terrified during the abuse and they thought they would get the same if they spoke up.  Marie is still living in Indiana.  She is not close with her sisters Paula or Shirley, but she is close to Stephanie.  Marie has never claimed personal responsibility for the crime, but she was the only child to break down on the stand at the trial.

Shirley/ Blake Baniszewski:  
Shirley was 10 at the time of the crime.  No charges were brought against her.  She is currently living in Iowa and is close with her sister Paula.  There was a woman who claimed on a message board that Shirley stayed with her off and on with a lesbian friend of hers. This woman called her self Anna.  Well the story goes that Anna got a call from the women's correctional center.  When confronted, she admitted that she was Gertrude’s daughter and disappeared.  For some reason I have a tendency to believe this story.  There has never been any public statement of remorse for her part in the crime.

Judy Duke:

Judy was arrested for injury to person and the charges were later dropped.  Judy’s involvement in the torture was relatively low,  but she admitted to slapping and trying to kick her, because Gertrude said she called her mother a name.  Judy also tried to tell her mother what was going on.  Judy’s mother dismissed it and did not contact anyone.  Judy Duke gave a very strange interview where it appears she may have made some things up.  You can read it here.   Judy is still alive.  She is married and has three kids.  The interviewer of this article has said that Judy showed remorse for her part, but the way she referred to Sylvia in the article makes this unlikely. You can read the article on my forum.
http://forsylvialikensx.yuku.com/topic/36

Anna Sisco:

Anna was another arrested for injury to person, but the charges were later dropped. Gertrude convinced Anna that Sylvia called her mother a name and Anna attacked Sylvia.  Anna died Oct. 23, 1996.  I will update this as I come across more information.  There has never been any public statement of remorse for her part in the crime.

Darlene MacGuire:  

Was the one who was responsible for bringing the Baniszewski’s and the Likens’ together. She was supposed to be friends with Sylvia, but by all accounts she burned her with cigarettes.  There has never been any public statement of remorse for her part in the crime.

Mike Monroe:  
Mike was arrested for injury to person, but the charges were later dropped and he was not called to testify at trial.  It is widely speculated that Mike told his mom about the abuse and that she was the one that called the nurse that came to the house.  I am not sure what Mike’s level of involvement was, because he did not testify, but he did have some involvement.  Jenny did mention him as someone involved.  Mike Monroe still resides in the house that he did when the murder happened.  There has never been any public statement of remorse for his part in the crime.

Randy Lepper:
Randy was charged with injury to person, but the charges were dropped.  He admitted to hitting Sylvia 30 or 40 times. Randy never married or had children.  There is a rumor that he may have been a cross dresser and or gay.  Gertrude herself said that he came to the house dressed like a girl.  He died in November 2010.  There has never been any public statement of remorse for his part in the crime.

James Baniszewski:  
James was eight at the time of the crime.  He was neither arrested or called to testify.  It has been documented that he participated in the torture, but he was to young to be held accountable.  James also known as Jimmy is the Baniszewski with the least known about him. It is known that he has lived with his sister Stephanie and her children at times, and that he has spent time living in New York.  Jimmy is not  remorseful  about his involvement in the crime.  He is quoted as saying that Sylvia died on purpose to piss his mom off.  Jimmy has also the only B sibling that chose not to speak to his brother Denny.  It was speculated that he might have been jealous of him.

Leroy K New:  Leroy was the prosecutor in the Sylvia Likens trial.  He was known to be a soft hearted guy, and he took Jenny in after the trial, so she could finish school.  Leroy K. New did a wonderful job prosecuting the Baniszewski’s.  You can read his closing arguments in the case from John Dean’s book House of evil here. Leroy died September 18, 2005 at age 85.  

Dennis Wright Jr: Dennis was a baby when Sylvia was being tortured.  After his family was arrested, he was placed in foster care and eventually adopted.  He had a really rough life, because his adoptive parents were abusive.  He got married and was a wonderful father to his son.  Unfortunately, Dennis died in February 2012.  Dennis was haunted by what his family did to Sylvia, and he often cried as a baby when she was being abused.  He is greatly missed by his wife and son.

John Baniszewski/ Blake SR:  John eventually gained custody of all of his children.  There is  not much known about the time he spent with them, but John JR said he remarried and was fond of his new stepmother.  He is quoted as saying that, “she is the kind of woman his mother should have been”.  It seems he was an ok father.  John Blake died October, 31 2007

John Dean (Natty Bumpo):  John was a journalist who attended the trial every day and wrote several articles about the case.  He wrote a book called House of evil: The Indiana Torture Slaying.  There are about three different editions of this book.  John seems to have a lot of sympathy for Sylvia in this book, but he kind of jumped shark in an article about this case. In the following link he is having a discussion with Denise Noe http://borf_books.tripod.com/skelter.htm Many people are offended in the way that he speaks about Sylvia and shows so much sympathy for Ricky Hobbs.  John apparently changed his name because John Dean was so common that he was getting mixed up with someone who was disbarred.

Kate Millet: Kate is a feminist who wrote the book The Basement: Meditations on a Human Sacrifice.  This book has received mix reviews.  Many people like its informative section, but Kate attempts to put herself in Gertrude and Sylvia’s head for a feminist perspective on the crime.  Kate also did an art display on the crime.

Jack Ketchum:
Jack is an author who has brought attention to the Sylvia likens case through his book and movie The Girl Next Door.  It is a completely different take with a darker twist that An American Crime, but it is loosely based on the Sylvia Likens Case.  Many people like the interpretation he takes of the character loosely based on Gertrude Baniszewski.

40 comments:

  1. This case has remained with me since I learned of it in 2007. Like the murders of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom or the Wichita Massacre, it does not take a serial killer or a famous victim to stand out as one of the worst tragedies to occur in American Crime. The cruelty involved, and by children no less, makes this case even more tragic. The fact that all of these kids lived in the house of a dying, beaten girl is appalling and sickening. Paula is one of the worst and I'm still scratching my head over the sympathetic portrayal her character received in the film An American Crime. As human beings, we all have the capability of being cruel, wicked and violent. But we also have remorse and empathy. So even if these kids were capable of harming Sylvia, WHERE was the compassion? Did any of them tell Sylvia they were sorry? Or did they, even after the trial, believe they'd done nothing wrong? Paula named her bastard after Gertrude, escaped from prison, lived with Gertrude after their parole, and lied to the school she worked for, around children despite her crime. She never showed remorse. When her identity was revealed she could have tried to own up to her crime, but she slunk away like a snake in the grass. I wonder if during Gertrudes last days, did she and Paula discuss Sylvia? Or did they just think of their crime in terms of a great tragedy that destroyed their lives, resulting in the family being separated and their names changed to avoid being the target of 40,000 people who wanted them to remain locked up. My bet is on the latter due to Gertrude still denying responsibility even at her parole hearing, using drug abuse as an excuse not to remember her crime or the victim. I do smile thinking about Paula's life being uprooted over her identity revealed. Maybe Sylvia smiled too when the moment occured to Paula that Sylvia would not be forgotten even if Paula tried to forget.

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    1. I agree with you 100%. I remember I was watching Deadly Women when I clicked on the episode that Sylvia was in. I cried my eyes out and honestly couldn't believe that a woman could do this to an innocent child. I mean for peets sake her own daughter was pregnant and claimed that it was Sylvia who was pregnant and not her. I don't understand the American Crime movies portrayal of Paula. I thought they gave her to much sympathy and not enough of her being a total mean girl to Sylvia who did nothing to Paula. I cry every time I read Sylvia's story.

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  2. This case has remained with me since I learned of it in 2007. Like the murders of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom or the Wichita Massacre, it does not take a serial killer or a famous victim to stand out as one of the worst tragedies to occur in American Crime. The cruelty involved, and by children no less, makes this case even more tragic. The fact that all of these kids lived in the house of a dying, beaten girl is appalling and sickening. Paula is one of the worst and I'm still scratching my head over the sympathetic portrayal her character received in the film An American Crime. As human beings, we all have the capability of being cruel, wicked and violent. But we also have remorse and empathy. So even if these kids were capable of harming Sylvia, WHERE was the compassion? Did any of them tell Sylvia they were sorry? Or did they, even after the trial, believe they'd done nothing wrong? Paula named her bastard after Gertrude, escaped from prison, lived with Gertrude after their parole, and lied to the school she worked for, around children despite her crime. She never showed remorse. When her identity was revealed she could have tried to own up to her crime, but she slunk away like a snake in the grass. I wonder if during Gertrudes last days, did she and Paula discuss Sylvia? Or did they just think of their crime in terms of a great tragedy that destroyed their lives, resulting in the family being separated and their names changed to avoid being the target of 40,000 people who wanted them to remain locked up. My bet is on the latter due to Gertrude still denying responsibility even at her parole hearing, using drug abuse as an excuse not to remember her crime or the victim. I do smile thinking about Paula's life being uprooted over her identity revealed. Maybe Sylvia smiled too when the moment occured to Paula that Sylvia would not be forgotten even if Paula tried to forget.

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  3. What a sad sad story. How could this happen in any modern society. I pray that Sylvia is in a better place now and that our communities never ever let such hideous crimes happen again.

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  4. The Social Services, police and parole board of Indiana are all guilty of negligence of duty in such a sad, tragic case. RIP Silvia.

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    1. Indiana's legal/Justice system is still a complete failure.

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  5. http://borf_books.tripod.com/skelter.htm wow, I cannot believe what author John Dean aka Natty Bumppo wrote about Sylvia Likens, in this... so sad, and beyond adding insult to injury. I cannot believe it... I am still in complete shock. I know that God has Sylvia, and HE will bring her justice, completely.

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  6. Thank you for sharing this horrible story.

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  7. i wish theh all burn in hell...and karma never comes late...

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  8. I honestly don't know why they let them free, they should have locked them all up and throw the keys away... also yea I hope there is a hell where they can burn. I just can't understand why so much hate towards Sylvia, I bet she was an angel and they just hated and had envy towards her for this. People are like this they just hate without reason, I never really understood this but I kind of know what it feels because people are like this to me too ever since I was 5 years old. At school at workplace everywhere I go people just don't like me, I kind of feel what Sylvia went through I can relate, I have never done wrong to anyone I have never been a bad person and I am very polite yet most people hate me... I am 30 right now no kids and I have 2 freinds that I consider them real friends... anyway enough about me I got carried away, just wanted to say I really feel Sylvia didn't deserve this and I feel related to her somehow, people are just haters and I will never understand this.

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    1. I agree, Sylvia didn't deserve this. She was an innocent girl but they liked to see her as a bitch, as an awful person, a person that she never was but they. I am not as others on my mind as to "burn in hell" , revenge doesn't change anything. But if there is something that i "hate", is that the "good people", the neighbours did not call the police in order to help Sylvia Marie and Jenny although they heard the screams. There is a similar case in germany with a girl called Karolina, she wast just 3 years old.

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    2. they let em go cause their white i bet if it were black kids they would put em in juvie or having them on probation they would have some type of punishment with no remorse

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    3. I have related to Sylvia on a very small level too. As far as you go,, hang in there and pray to the Lord, don't give up. I know what it's like to be outcasted and sometimes when you're not liked the dislike can turn to violence , I understand....

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  9. thank you for posting this. what a truly disgusting story. i've tried looking up who is still alive, but can't find anything. can you provide more info on who / where they are?

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  10. Fortunately for Gertrude, children are easily manipulated, and where I am not excusing the main culprits, of this vicious murder, their desire to please Gertie, seems almost pathological. At least by admitting his guilt in what happened, John was able to find some measure of peace, something Paula might want to look into.

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  11. Shame on the so called justice system in Indianapolis. All of them should have served every last year and more. The death penalty should have been used for this case.

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  12. What a sad story this girl must have been so mentally broken to not run away or tell someone what was happening to her. This happened over 50 years ago and none of the perpetrators seemed to do any serious prison time. I am interested in what the victims parents said about all of this throughout the trials and what happened to the parents.

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  13. What a sad story this girl must have been so mentally broken to not run away or tell someone what was happening to her. This happened over 50 years ago and none of the perpetrators seemed to do any serious prison time. I am interested in what the victims parents said about all of this throughout the trials and what happened to the parents.

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    1. She was tied to a post in the basement with a broken leg after being thrown done the stairs at the request of Gertrude then tried to the post and tortured by the Gertrude , her spawns and the neighborhood children, while the neighbors heard her screams of pain day in and day out. And looked the other way. They also should have been tried for something.

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  14. So many things are wrong with this case it literally blows my mind. Firstly the extreme poverty of all counterparts and then the total cluster bleep of the justice system and denial of all the perpetrators. Gertrude was the gang leader and her deputy was her daughter Paula. God, karma call it what you will, justice prevails. It came too late for Sylvia but it's a reminder that there is a Sylvia in every murdered child and the justice system in needs to change for benefit of children every where especially those in poverty or neglect. Challenge the justice system, make change in the system and keep voicing your challenge to the justice system to make real change so that those that commit the crime PAY THE BLEEPING CRIME.

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  15. What about mum and dad of Sylvia and Jenny? It reminds me all the time of the song of Jene Pitney, "Somewhere in the country". Having kids is all the luck you can get. Why give away the kids to people you don't know very well? The sisters should have better travelled with mum and dad or even alone as Sonora did in the movie "Wild hearts can't be broken". Sadly they couldn't escape from that wierd spider net of a frustrated woman, lunatic and sadistic.

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  16. I have the dvd "The Girl Next Door" but could only bring myself too watch it one time. For me, that was one time too much. How the hell could ANYONE be so damn cruel to another human being? IMO All those involved should've been given the death penalty, PERIOD, END OF STORY! Its a good thing I wasn't the judge, cos that's EXACTLY what they would've gotten. It always amazes me, when these twisted deeply warped twisted F$%KS end up getting life sentence's. Oh sure, they get to live behind bars & have 3 square meals a day, all while they live off my & your tax dollars every day. That's Bullshit! They get to go o living everyday, but you sure can't say that, about the ones they butchered or hacked, now can you?

    And yet, us as tax payers are suppose to help pay our taxes to keep these punks alive? And what's even more B.S. is when you here these punks say how they "found God" while in jail. All they found, was a great line of B.S. to play on peoples sympathy. And IMO if you want any sympathy Jackass, its in the dictionary right between shit & suicide. Like I said, ALL THOSE INVOLVED SHOULD'VE BEEN FRIED IN THE ELECTRIC CHAIR. More proof on just how big a joke the judicial system really is. And the sad part to all this is, today, those who are still alive, are now among the living & are free in the world. And if you find the bastards, KILL EM!

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    1. I COMPLETELY AGREE! the fact that they release ANY of them is BULL SHIT! I want paula, stephanie and all the other assholes alive to DIE.

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    2. Actually it(sympathy)would be after shit and suicide.lol. sorry. I watched the American Crime movie about this story and it was so disturbing I have never forgotten it! It made me sick to my core that someone(alot of someone's) would do that to another human. I agree they should have gotten the death penalty. They sure as hell should have never seen the light of day again! Shame on the Indiana parole board for that! Disgusting.

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  17. Thank you for sharing thhat information considering what happened with them.
    Thank you again.

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  18. This is one of the saddest crimes ever. I watched the move years ago and still have nightmares about it. That the people involved have gone on like they did nothing shows the depths of their evil. It is scary that some of then aren't in hell yet and still walk the street. This is the type of crime where the perpetrators should have to endure the same punishment they gave to the victim. I think it's the only way they might feel remorsend. Comments that they were children and didn't understand the extent of their actions are bull I know as a child I could never have done this to anyone or anything. All little series kills that should never have seen the light of day.

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  19. I know I'm late to the party by more than a decade, but I just clicked over and read the Natty Bumppo/Denise Noe correspondence, along with the asides thrown in by a few others. As someone who was seriously - though by no means as significantly - bullied and abused as a child and early teen, one of the most hurtful comments came from the person who declared that Sylvia had no "fighting spirit" and that this is why she had allowed herself to be victimized in this way. As someone who endured significant physical harm at the hands of a group of strangers on a daily basis, I suppose I did radiate a certain vulnerability, yes. But that wasn't the only reason they chose me. They also chose me because I was a bit of an innocent, a trusting person who saw the best in others, and also, because I DID possess a fighting spirit, though that trust meant it took longer to awaken. Full compliance would have been boring to my bullies. How do I know this? Because unlike Sylvia, I survived, and unlike her tormentors, the ringleader of mine asked to meet with me 30 years later and expressed deep remorse. He offered to answer any questions I might have and we talked for a very long time. He made no excuses for himself, but he did explain who he was at that time, why he chose me, and how he had come to rally so many people to the cause of my daily humiliation. It freed me in many ways. Sylvia never had that chance. I was recently reminded of this case by a podcast I listen to, and thought about reading Mr. Dean/Bumppo's book, but I won't put a penny in this man's pocket after seeing how callously he speaks of Sylvia. I'm not bothered by his empathy for Hobbs or for Lester, but this idea that they are victims at anything close to her level is bizarre and, it seems to me, completely chauvinistic - which is not a word I use lightly in 2016, almost 2017 America.

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  20. Natty Bumppo is a sick man I think that used Sylvia's story for profit.

    RIP Sylvia Likens

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  21. I hope Baniszewski generation burn in hell, as they stop Sylvia's generation. All of them deserve to die.

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  22. I've just learnt about Sylvia's story and this horrible crime.
    My thoughts are with her family. Rest in peace, Sylvia.

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    1. Yes Sylvia is resting in peace I am certain of it she deserves it after all of the crap she had to put up with from Gertrude who did most of the damage but also sat by at times and let her children or the neighbor hood kids torture her which I don't approve of.

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  23. I just learned about this today. Watching "The Girl Next Door", had to look up the real story behind it. I was in complete shock!! Shock isn't even the word.. There is NO word(s) to explain any of this. I've read too much as to why nobody is taking any responsibility for their actions. Gertrude couldn't have been on drugs that bad to humiliate and torture an innocent soul. The fact that they got released is questionable. The fact that they got released at all is UNBELIEVABLE!!

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    2. I interpret what your saying is; (How they even survived jail?) If that is not what you're saying forgive me... My only logic is Gertrude was a mastermind at manipulation which probably helped her to survive and unfortunately get liked in prison as far as Paula, from what I have read she was 5'4" and weighing 160. Obviously this individual (Paula) was violent, which makes me wonder if she could of handled herself in prison. I don't understand, it seems like some people especially predators are just not victims. I don't get it at all !!! They will destroy, humiliate, and even cause death. A very strong Christian had to remind me that God is just.

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    3. God is the Great Equalizer. If not in this life, in the next, but justice will prevail.

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  24. Two wrongs don't make a right, & people doing the right thing is one of the only ways to show there's a difference. But these people bring the worst tendencies out of me - I want to exact revenge, I want all the survivors, esp. the ones who hide/deny, such as Paula & Stephanie, lynched & tortured. I want them to admit what they did and understand it. I never thought anything cd piss me off beyond, say, what was done to people in the Holocaust, but this does. I wish Gertrude had suffered so much more.

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  25. I have cried so many times over this story and over what happened to an innocent 16 year old girl who didn't deserve any of the crap that she went through. I believe with all my heart that Sylvia is resting in peace and is finally free. I have never approved of what those people did I think they should have served every bloody minute of there sentence but no they only served some jail time.

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  26. This is such a tragic heart wrenching case, but the concept of group think and how easily people can be led away from the basic elements of humanity are frightening, yet fascinating. Psychiatrists dropped the ball on this in the 60's. This case and Sylvia's tormentors should've been a point of deep study. The only real justice served in this horrendous crime was the lung cancer God bestowed on Gertrude. I doubt her final days on earth were very happy, before she descended into hell.

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  27. Coy Hubbards daughter is not having an easy life cause of what has been said about her father she is blaming everyone else for that instead of blaming her own father for the problems shes having had he not been part of it her life would be fine but what I don't get it how she sits there and says its been 40+ years well for her family its been 40+ years without her and years of pain. I think she should place blame with the fact that her father was a sick prick who added to the death of this girl and could have called police or told someone so it would stop. How would he feel if some sick fuck did this to his daughter. I get her pain living with her fathers mistakes but blame him the sick fucker. if he was my dad Id want nothing to do with him. how her mother found him find to be a father is beyond me. None of these people seem to care they took this girls life. wow

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  28. I've been haunted by what happened to Sylvia. I went though physical and emotional and mental abuse within a member of my family whom I turned into the police in December of 2006. He was killed in prison in 2011.

    Rip Sylvia Likens.you aren't in Amy pain.

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